It's a fascinating time of industrial history quite apart from the technology of it, because there is no doubt that the technology existed for the British newspapers, national newspapers and provincial newspapers, to be published more efficiently years before the transformation actually came.

But they were held up because of union intransigence. You have a certain sympathy. Provided these unions could hold the pistol steadily to the head they were benefiting from it, and they would benefit just as long as they could. Some of them would wince at me saying what I've just said, others would agree that, that was a matter of fact because indeed it was a matter of fact.